Overclocking

[Dave_Lethal]

I noticed this entry when I ran Everest:

[ Processors / Intel Celeron(tm) ]

Processor Properties:
Manufacturer Intel
Version Intel Celeron(tm)
External Clock 66 MHz
Maximum Clock 933 MHz
Current Clock 700 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 2.0 V
Status Enabled
Upgrade ZIF
Socket Designation Intel(TM) Socket 370

It says that my max Clock is 933 Mhz. Does this mean that I can safely overclock my processor to about 900 Mhz without risk of frying anything or needing additional cooling?

[icecube]

Check out the processor. You need to check its designed speed that is printed on the CPU
Normally on the older MB's, your processor runs at 66 or 100 Mh and your cpu speed is set by dividing that number into the stated CPU speed. 66 into 933 would be 14, that would be set in the bios or on the motherboard (if it was not automatically done). 66 into 700 would be a setting of 10.

I'm not familiar with the software you are using, but I can't imagine that it would even imply overclocking. It could be a setting has been entered wrong.

Here is a link to Belar that I use, its free and tells you your cpu info and its settings
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[Dave_Lethal]

Processor
700 megahertz Intel Celeron
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
128 kilobyte secondary memory cache

Main Circuit Board
Board: GVC DR742E A02
Bus Clock: 66 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. DR742E BIOS Ver: 1.00.19 06/09/00

Unfortunately, being an Intel processor, the setting in the Bios is locked and I can't even view what it is set at, but I am assuming it is set at 10 since my processor is running at 700 Mhz.

Since I don't know how to unlock it, it's probably best that I leave it as is.

Everest is a pretty well known (but discontinued) program. It can still be found on various websites by doing a google search for "download Everest home edition". There is a tab called "overclock" that shows your CPU temperatures and other information. Here is what is listed there:

CPU Properties:
CPU Type Intel Celeron II
CPU Alias Celeron III, Coppermine Lite, Coppermine-128
CPU Stepping cB0
CPUID Revision 00000683h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 701.04 MHz (original: 700 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 10.5x
CPU FSB 66.77 MHz (original: 66 MHz)

CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 16 KB
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 128 KB (On-Die, ATC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-0100-001259-00101111-071595-WHITNEY$1AAEY053_DR742E BIOS Ver: 1.00.19
Motherboard Name GVC DR742E (3 PCI, 1 AMR, 2 DIMM, Audio, Video)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset Intel Whitney i810E
Memory Timings 3-3-3-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1 128 MB PC100 SDRAM (3.0-3-3-7 @ 125 MHz) (2.0-2-2-5 @ 100 MHz)
DIMM2: PNY Tech. 256 MB PC133 SDRAM (3.0-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz) (2.0-2-2-5 @ 100 MHz)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 06/09/00
Video BIOS Date 04/02/26
DMI BIOS Version DR742E BIOS Ver: 1.00.19

Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9200 (RV280)
GPU Code Name RV280 (PCI 1002 / 5961, Rev 01)
GPU Clock 250 MHz (original: 250 MHz)
Memory Clock 200 MHz (original: 200 MHz)

Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 44 °C (111 °F)
Tcpu 57 °C (135 °F)
Taux 38 °C (100 °F)
Fcpu 4441 RPM
Vcore 1.58 V
Vaux 1.52 V
Vio 3.25 V


According to that, my front side bus is 66.77 mhz and my multiplier is 10.5, which makes sense. I just wish I knew how to change it : /

[robbro]

i wouldnt bother overclocking ur current cpu.. as its a little unpowered compared to cpus you can get now. if you have not got enough money to get a new comp id wait till you have because overclocking can damage you cpu if you do not know what your doing or make any mistake...

I have tried overclocking a few times you need a really CPU Heat sink and fan to overclock sucessfully overclocking ur current cpu with the cpu fan and heatsick attatched to it now may not evne hold the speed you overclock it to so be careful.

just my advice

[Dave_Lethal]

[robbro]

oh good glad u getting a better cpu try on ebay cheap maybe? sorry for the typos in last post it was late at night haha

[icecube]

I would suggest against the cpu upgrade, you won't even be able to notice the difference.

512K stick of ram would give you a better kick for your dollar. It would bring your system up to 3/4 of a gig.

your 256K stick at 133 is being slowed down by your 128 pc100 stick.

[Dave_Lethal]

[icecube]

You're stuck with the 512 limit. You might just dump the 128 and match the 256 -133. The CPU speed might not be that noticeable to you, but I am sure that the game will operate with the new CPU. My only point was that doubling the processor speed doesn't double the performance. My guess, is that its more like a 15% increase and I could be wrong there--depends on the system.

I just saw a new P-IV System with XP Home on it for $199 which boggles my mind. You might want to spend $200 and buy a Motherboard CPU package with 1 gig of memory and upgrade your machine. It will cost you less in time and money in the long run.

[Dave_Lethal]

Where did you see this at? And is it hard to do? I have a feeling it's going to be more complicated than it sounds.

[icecube]

Everybody starts somewhere. In this case, I would look for a new case for the P4. They go on sale all the time $20 maybe you have to mail in a rebate. Last year, I bought a MB and CPU combo for $124 and two sticks of memory at 59 each with a $30 rebate on each.. The WD 120 gb hard drive was $29 after rebates.

The new motherboards require two hook ups from the power supply. If you are really unsure, have them put in the CPU and the memory where you buy the items.

From there, its pretty much a cake walk--make sure all the standoffs in the case match holes on the motherboard and screw it down. If you have seven standoffs and only six holes on the motherboard, it is a good idea to pause and get rid of the bad one.

The only thing that you need to realize at this point, since you have all new hardware, your XP install from the old hard drive (when you move it over) will choke an blue screen. At this point you would do a "Windows over the top," install to recover the O/S.

Make a decision, and we will help you walk your way through it, Good luck

[Dave_Lethal]

Thanks I will do that when I can afford all the parts.

The only problem is needing a fresh XP install. I bought this computer from a friend and it had XP installed on it already. I don't have the disk, but I do have a serial number and another number for it that I can't think of the name of. Can I install XP using any XP cd and just use my existing numbers, keeping it legal?