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[Psymon]

Out of interest, if you have a legit XP key, then might you be able to download or borrow a copy of the normal XP install disk and then use your key?

Could save you the woes from installing your way?

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according to liljim...that won't be necessary. I can install from my upgrade disk and insert win98 when it prompts me to....to verify a legit upgrade....I still will copy XP to drive and install from there.

Ever been installing an OS and have a read error and have to reboot and start install again, only to end up with corrupt files?????

It's happened to me a couple times, so now I copy to drive...install from there, no read errors!!!!!

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liljim,

I ran everest, was looking things over and seen this:


CPU FSB 561.22 MHz (original: 100 MHz, overclock: 461%)


what is that about? I have never tried to OC my PC!

also, what are the norms for temps:

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83697HF (ISA 290h)

Temperatures
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 34 °C (93 °F)
MAXTOR 6L040J2 42 °C (108 °F)
Seagate ST3160021A 37 °C (99 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2009 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.12 V
+3.3 V 3.33 V
+5 V 5.05 V
+12 V 11.19 V
-12 V 1.38 V
-5 V 2.69 V
+5 V Standby 4.97 V
VBAT Battery 0.10 V
Debug Info F FF 54 FF
Debug Info T 31 34 255
Debug Info V 46 00 D0 BC B8 C6 CF (01)


Is this normal or hot?

[liljim]

thats pretty normal temps which is good. I dont know whats up with the overclock but its a pretty safe bet that your not 461% over : )

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are there keyboard shortcuts for temporary or permanent overclocking ???

seen something about it when I was researching overclocking, but they didn't go into it !!!

[liljim]

If there is, its both software specific and a bad idea at the same time. Overclocking from within windows is possible to a degree but 90% of the time the system will crash/freeze in doing so. Theres alot of programs out there, most are the by board manufactures, that overclock from within and can be hot keyed im sure but its been my experience that it just sucks. Ive tried MSI's tool on one of their boards, Gigabyte and Asus tools are no better. The tried and true method is through the bios.

[liljim]

just thought i should add that the above is concerning CPU's. GPU's/ video cards are different ball game and are typically clocked from the OS with exception of the slot speed itself. You can overclock the slot frequency in bios and the gpu and gmemory speeds via software.

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O.K. was just curious if maybe I had hit the right key combo and accidentally overclocked my cpu

because of that Everest report saying I was OC'd by 461%

[liljim]

no its certainly a read error, 461% would just about have you on international news channels. 10%-20% is a pretty good OC.

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O.K. liljim,

Heres a hard one for you!!!! on Operating Systems

what is the difference between system builders OEM and Full OS ?
Also, on the Full OS, it doesn't specify 32/64 bit...can it be used for either?


ALSO.......
you said I needed arctic silver.....Do I want the adhesive or compound?

[liljim]

on the OS, oem is meant for system builders meaning it doesnt come in a pretty box or with all the fancy useless paperwork telling you how great microsoft is. Its pretty much a cd in a white sleeve with certificates of authenticity and a key. At one time you had to purchase "qualifying hardware" to be entitled to get a oem version or you have to be a licensed vendor but i dont know if its changed any.

If it doesnt specify 64 bit, its 32 and cant be used for both.

i prefer compound myself. I tinker too much to use adhesive

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do you know where I can get a WIN 7 64 bit full version online?

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What do you mean "Qualifying Hardware"?

Can you look at the OS at newegg and tell me what you would suggest for a 64bit system?

where do you purchase your PC parts from?

[liljim]

I now shop at newegg myself. When i was licensed, i had a couple wholesale vendors i occasionally ordered from but unless you were buying in bulk they wasnt much cheaper than newegg themselves. Win 7 ultimate 64 is suppose to be pretty good, i havent tried it myself. My only 64 bit os experience is with xp 64 and ubuntu linux 64, neither of which is compatable with much of anything. Windows XP 64 wasnt bad really, it had a good 32 bit emulator for running apps but driver support was very limited. With win7 being the "big new thing" its support should be slightly better.

System builder rules have changed since my involvement but heres some info to read up on.

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I contacted microsoft tech support and they said anyone can use an OEM but it is limited to 1 pc only....coding mobo! and has no manufacturer support!

They also told me the windows 7 FULL is 32 bit and 64 bit in one package....just install the one you want


So, with the single pc restrictions and both 32 and 64 bit in one package....looks like the full version!!!